Response to Forum

August 25 2010 - Response to comments about me in the
JREF Forum - VisionFromFeeling - General discussion thread - page 29

Sideroxylon #1135
It's interesting that she brands suggestions she seek such [psychiatric] advice as an insult, lumping it in with disparaging references to her physical appearance. But what's the more parsimonious explanation for your claims, Anita? Is it having super x-ray powers or delusion? Why has it taken so long to consider investigating the latter?

VFF response:
Comments from internet-skeptics, as opposed to real skeptics, telling me I'm delusional, narcissistic, and a range of other mental diagnoses, are given in the same manner as insults that I be fat, sexually manipulative because I've dated a skeptic and am now dating another skeptic, and a host of other offense. The manner in which I have been treated by the JREF Forum has always been hostile, and engaging in ridicule rather than intellectual, civil advice toward my investigation and claims. I hold it highly unlikely, that comments of accusations against my mental health would have been the one exception from an otherwise hostile treatment or given as kind, helpful advice. They come across as nothing but one in the range of insults used by internet-skeptics in trying to achieve what they mistakingly think is the goal of skepticism, simply to dismiss and destroy any paranormal claims and claimants, at what ever the cost.

I have described my experience of health perceptions to two different psychiatrists during my treatment for depression in the previous years and it was never regarded as reason for concern. I have also described the claim, and the investigation I am doing, to three different professors, all finding it interesting and encouraging me to further investigation, not to seek mental counseling.

Everyone is entitled to their own experience. Synesthesia, for instance, is an example of regularly occurring synthetic experience of something that does not really exist, other than in the mind of the experiencer. A synesthete can for instance experience a color when they hear music. The music will be there, and is real and experienced the same by all observers, but the experience of color occurs entirely in the mind of the synesthete. Yet, synesthesia is not considered a mental illness. What distinguishes a personal, subjective and perhaps rare experience between being acceptable or a reason for concern, is that it would be harmful in some way. My perceptions are not harmful to me, they are not distressing, scary, and they do not lead me to any kind of behavior that would be abnormal or unhealthy. I also cause no harm or distress to others with my claims, other than being a frustration to skeptics. I do not tell others what I see of their health, and I only do readings on skeptics. I do not practice paranormal claims, I make no money off my claims. There is nothing about my experiences, that offer a reason for concern, other than that there is the prevalent intolerance among internet-skeptics against anything that is unusual, different, and that the experiences that are behind my claims are by many others who experience something similar, used in immoral and harmful practices, but which I am not responsible of.

By being a public figure and stepping out with my claims, and entering the skeptical community which offered to test claims of the paranormal, I have been made into the sole representative of all of woo and all of its harms, being treated worse even than Sylvia Browne and other paranormal practitioners who get away with what they do. Meanwhile, it is my investigation that is under attack, not for what it does and achieves, which is a skeptical insight allowed into a case example of these claims, but simply because I dared to step out and say that I am a skeptic, one with paranormal claims.

Who is saying anything about x-ray vision? All I am saying, is that when I look at people I experience feeling a pattern across them, which then translates into a corresponding visual experience that depicts health information and tissues. And that the accuracy of my perceptions seems to be rather high. So I investigate. And regardless of the final explanation that will be revealed, regardless of the source and origin of these perceptions, whether it be x-ray vision, delusion, or all because of the lunar cycles, the perceptions will stay. I will continue to experience them.

Regardless of what causes the perceptions, I want to know their accuracy, and that is something a psychiatrist can not investigate. My investigation is on the stage of determining the accuracy as well as the conditions during which the perceptions occur. It has always been intended as my second objective to then find out what causes the perceptions.


Akhenaten #1136
Reading between the lines, we see that Anita is still in Sweden and apparently will be for some time to come, yet the school semester in the US has well and truly started. One might wonder what that's all about.

VFF response:
I'm changing schools for the fall semester and the paperwork is taking its time. I expect to hear from my student loan agency any day now, after which I must hurry and get the VISA. It was like this four years ago too when I first applied and entered college. My application package was at least 27 pages thick. Phew. Everything needs to be new, official copies, in both Swedish and English translation, signed, stamped, and in the right order. I need papers before I can get other papers, that I need to get some other papers. This is what it is all about.


desertgal #1137
I'm confused. James Randi himself has publicly dismissed her as an out and out fraud, one of the many he has come across in his long career. Now, is he an "at home, internet based amateur level skeptic" or a "real, highly regarded skeptic"? Last time I checked, he has made a "considerable contribution to the skeptical community", but now it appears he is just cowering from this "sole representative of woo".

ETA: If she sees a psychiatrist, great. if she tells a psychiatrist the truth, more power to her. Until she does that, though, there's no evidence here of any real attempt at self awareness on Anita's part. It's too bad.

VFF response:
I regard James Randi as one of the great skeptics, and usually he is rather well-informed, but this time he is acting from his own prejudice against claimants in general. He has never taken the time to look into my case personally, and is acting from assumption. Of this I am quite sure. It is as simple as that I am no fraud. I make no claims that are not true. My only claim is that when I look at people I experience health perceptions and that the accuracy is interestingly high. I do not claim to be psychic, and no element of my claims or investigation is fraud.

I intend to audio record my conversations with a psychiatrist. Of course, if I do not tell the doctor that I am a "fat, sexually manipulative psychic slut who is a liar and a fraud" you might not think I made a real attempt at self awareness or truth. The truth is, I experience health images and I am investigating their accuracy. That's all there is to it.


Ambermae #1138
I have been quoted on VfF's website....yay.....just kidding! Although i have been quoted, she completely missed the point of both mine and Desertgal's post!!! I'm the person who has a diagnosed personality disorder. I am not ashamed of it nor should i be, there is nothing wrong with having a mental illness, more people than you could imagine have a mental illness of some sort or other during their lives, even if its just a single case of depression.

The point i was trying to make in my post was Anita says she doesnt "feel" mentally ill and neither did i for the 20+ years i went undiagnosed, just because you don't "feel" mentally ill doesn't mean that you are not. I was also trying to explain that i am upset at the thought of someone else going through what i have over the years. I spent many years wondering why people thought my behaviour was unusal or why they would say they were worried about me, to me, my behaviour was normal and not strange at all. I now have treatment and i'm much better.

I knew Anita would probably read my post so i was hoping she would understand that there is a reason why people are concerned by her behaviour but it seems that she didn't want to see or didn't notice my point.

I would also like to point out that she quoted me as saying i was worried about her being a danger to people, what she failed to do was quoye the reason why, i said i was concerned because i worry that she may tell a poor pregnant woman that there is something wrong with her baby. The mental and physical distress this may cause doesn't bear thinking about!

I really do hope that Anita does in fact seek a mental health professional and i hope that she is completely honest with them and takes the advice they give her.

Anita, i didnt't qhite say it right in the post you quoted so i'll say it here. Please seek help form a mental health professional and please take what the say to heart. I am concerned not only about what you may do to other but i am also concerned about you too. As i said in my post, i went through hell while i was undiagnosed and i do not wish that to happen to you.

VFF response:
I agree with you Ambermae there is nothing embarrassing about having a mental illness. Learning tolerance and understanding is essential both to those who experience it and people around. And I can admit I have had not just a "single case of depression", I've had a serious and lengthy depression. (That's what happens when you take a girl's Summa Cum Laude away by calling her stupid and hitting her with papers! ... Don't worry guys, I am changing schools to fix this.)

Then why don't you explain to me what is wrong with what I am doing? With so many psychic practitioners out there, some outright and knowing frauds who make things up, and others expressing something that they experience but believe in, and causing so much harm to others when they insist that what they do or see that is unusual would be real. Why is my harmless investigation the target of your concern? I did rather well in my IIG test, well enough that I thought I should have another test. And at the TAM test the target was among the two out of ten where I did not see a kidney. I see nothing wrong with investigating and offering my case of a paranormal claim to the skeptical method and for an honest analysis and reveal.

Your worry that I would tell a pregnant woman that there is something wrong with her baby, surely must come from your own mental illness. Sorry to say, but if you honestly think that I am practicing psychic readings to pregnant women or otherwise, you are surely hallucinating it. I do not offer psychic readings, how many times do I have to say that? I only read skeptics, and so that skeptics can tell me whether I was accurate or not. My last reading was with none other than Dr. Michael Shermer, and he thought I did really well. If your worries come from your concern that I do readings with people, then drop your worries I do no readings!

The perceptions themselves are no reason for concern, but just to ease your mind and to finally have amateur-level internet-skeptics stop using accusations of mental illness as a means of insult disguised as kind helping I will see a psychiatrist to discuss my health perceptions. The perceptions themselves are not a mental illness, I also see colors from numbers and shapes from physics equations and those are by definition not a mental illness. Furthermore, my behavior with my perceptions is no reason to suspect mental illness. I still believe that you skeptics are only using this as a means of insult and offense to try to stop my paranormal investigations at any cost, and this one conveniently disguised as claiming to mean only well.

We are once again reminded of this joke, about the woman who is accused of fishing illegally and the ranger accused of rape. Ambermae, please read the yellow box on this page and please take what it says to heart.


wardenclyffe #1153
My speculation here is not that juicy. I think her initial student visa expired as it normally would after four years (or whatever the term was). Because she changed majors and whatever else, it's taking her longer to graduate than she expected. She had to return to Sweden because her visa expired. Now, either some bureaucrat has dropped the ball or she's been so busy working, jetting to Las Vegas and trying to maintain a long distance relationship with her new skeptical boyfriend* that she dropped the ball when it came time to fill out all the forms properly for her visa.

I don't think UNCC would prevent her from coming back unless she were far more destructive than we have been led to believe. If she were that much trouble at school, I think we'd have heard more about it. What we've heard is bad, but I don't think it's bad enough for them to keep her from her final year in school.

In any case, it looks like this current semester is a complete loss to her. Her postings over at www.vof.se seem to indicate that she'll be in Sweden for a while. She's hoping to do more kidney tests there and some ghost hunting. That indicates that she does not believe she'll be leaving the country any time soon.

Ward

*Pure speculation that her new boyfriend is in the US and not Sweden. I still maintain that he can be seen in one of her TAM8 hallway videos. I don't know that he's featured, but when we find out who he is (and we will find out because she'll never be able to keep her mouth shut) we will find that he was there.

VFF response:
Yes my initial four-year VISA expired. I added a second B.S. major to my undergraduate studies. One B.S. degree usually takes four years, and I hope to do two in a total of six years. Hahaa! How did you know I was late with my application and paperwork! Are you psychic, Ward? I made the decision to change schools rather late, and that has caused delay to my paperwork.

To be honest, I did not study fulltime in the recent semesters because I was suffering from a severe depression (which I did my best to hide, so you probably didn't know about it!). Now that I am recovered I can talk about it because it doesn't make me feel bad. I ran into a bad professor at UNCC and both me and my psychologist there realized that it would be best for me to change schools. So yes, there was trouble, and I don't mind talking about it because it empowers me and helps me recover from my ordeal. I am now admitted to another university, but I made the decision to change schools rather late, and that is why I am still in Sweden. Aren't you guys a bit too curious about my personal and professional life? But I'd rather explain things, rather than have you guys misinterpret and make up stories about me that aren't true.

The test with VoF was to take place over the weekend of August 14-15, but didn't. The ghost investigation I intended to do this week, but the paranormal investigations group I contacted was not investigating quite yet after their summer break. I'm just trying to find stuff to do to fill up my time as I wait for the papers to get all organized. As soon as I'm ready to leave, I'll drop all else and you won't hear from me as much again for a while as I start the semester again.

Why do you assume that the skeptic I am seeing would be featured in the TAM video? TAM had over 1,300 attendees, and I made my video on the last day of the conference and the hallway was pretty much empty by then. And no I will never tell you who it is, because he wants us to keep it a secret!


wardenclyffe #1155
I don't know that it's ever been established that James Randi has ever made any comment, publicly or privately, about Ikonen. Someone using his name made such a comment in response to an article in her school newspaper. I've never heard any confirmation that it was actually him. I don't know that he mentioned her at TAM8. He was not there for her demostration. Unless he confirms that he wrote that comment in the school paper, I'm not ready to accept that he's done anything other than ignore her.

VFF response:
Agreed. I do not regard the comment as having been made by him, since there is no official proof that it in fact was him. By the way I think Randi is great. I shook hands with him at TAM and told him that I was the woo of the year.


Audible Click #1157
I think Anita is, supposedly, going to see a psychiatrist because she is desperately in need of an attention fix. I doubt that she will be allowed to record the session and if she doesn't record it she will be able to spin it to suit herself. Two years of this and she is still trying to convince someone/anyone that she has "something special". It doesn't matter how many tests or demonstrations she fails, she just keeps on going (sort of like the Energizer Bunny on meth). She craves the attention and she's not getting it in the quantity that she needs. She's yesterday's news, she's irrelevant.

VFF response:
I am seeing a psychiatrist because too many at-home, internet-based amateur-level skeptics are urging me to, and to end the controversy and so that accusations of mental illness can no longer be used as appropriate insults and means by which to try to dismiss my continued investigation into my claims. I am also of course curious about the mental aspects, and one of my goals is to eventually have a brain scan done to reveal what parts of my brain I am using when I am experiencing the pictures of health that are derived from something I am feeling when I look at people. Meanwhile the session can not really advance the investigation, it can only speculate on what the origins are of my perceptions and confirm to you all that they are a harmless experience. It is the accuracy I am investigating, and a psychiatrist can not determine that.

I do none of this for attention, sorry. I am quite sure I will be allowed to record the session, because otherwise I would be allowed to write it down verbatum afterwards so what really is the difference? It is my session, and the doctor will remain anonymous. As an at-home, internet-based amateur-level skeptic you are only interested in a single test that produces a simple yes/no answer, 100% accurate or nothing at all. Meanwhile as a future research scientist I am interested in the intermediate grayzone between yes and no, to study the behavior of something and to learn more about it. That is why I continue, I've done well enough to show that there might be something to it. I am compelled to continue.


August 26 2010

LightinDarkness #1161
I think you made this point very well and everyone here would agree with you - but Anita has a pattern of simply ignoring even the most sincere concerns for her mental health and spinning anyone who questions it as mental lunatics out to deprive her of her "investigations."

I think the fact that Anita believes she must "feel" like she is mentally ill to actually have some sort of problem is the largest indicator of where her "abilities" originate from (that would be mental delusions, not paranormal superpowers). As you point out, that is the point of why people have mental health issues - if they realized something was wrong, it wouldn't be a problem to begin with. Mental illnesses are predominately characterized by those suffering from them not knowing that anything is wrong..which is why its a problem.

Either Anita knows this and is simply trying to grab attention or shes mentally ill...or both. But we can at this point rule out any supernatural powers due to her IIG failure.

VFF response:
The problem is, that I based my choice to begin to investigate on what is termed as "anecdotes"; personal experiences with the claim which did not occur under circumstances in which they could have been documented to be turned into formal evidence. I was having the health perceptions for many years, until interesting cases of accuracy started adding up.

Things such as meeting a coworker for the first time and instantly seeing a huge clear image of internal reproductive cysts. The experience was just like if you are in a quiet room and suddenly without warning someone turns the TV on and it is loud and clear and the volume is on really high. A totally overwhelming experience. I just wanted to blurt out "internal cysts!" but had to restrain myself. And so it would be, every time I would see her, the loud images would be there. Knowing of course that my images are to be considered subjective and also that I have no right to inquire with her about her personal health, I never said anything. About a month later she confided in us that she was scheduled for surgery to remove internal reproductive cysts.

Experiences like these, and this one in particular, rightfully so made me curious. I am quite sure most people would become curious if it happened to them. But what I'm both proud and relieved of, is that I've always had a sense of distancing from these perceptions, ie. that they are not an automatic and immediate sense of my reality, I do not hold them as real, and even as there seems to be accuracy I can still step back from them and say that I need more data in order to be sure. And to be honest, the experience I have of when an image of internal tissues pops up in my head, is quite similar to daydreaming, or feeling things when I listen to music. It's not like I think it is real. It just is and I've come across interesting cases of accuracy, so I am curious.

So I begun to investigate, and in the process of having a study I did a reading on FACT skeptics during which I identified that one was missing a left kidney. I did not write that down because my logic could not possibly believe in it and was interfering, and therefore it remains an anecdote and not supported by formal evidence. And on a lady FACT skeptic I knew she was missing her uterus, because I was seeing just dark and lack of the vibrational pattern that I would otherwise feel from there, and normally the uterine tissue is one of the clearest ones I see, in a pretty pink and red color. Also an anecdote, the reading was done in a hurry after a meeting and no proper documentation was in place. It is things like these, that further compel me to investigate.

I consider a wide range of possible normal explanations. Perhaps I am remembering the hits, and forgetting the misses? But if I were simply guessing my way to these very specific ailments, it should be pretty hard to guess right on these and there should in addition be a large amount of incorrect guesses. And the incorrect guesses should be remarkable, describing all forms of various similarly specific, and hidden internal information. And there should be more misses than hits, statistically speaking. But where are they?

Perhaps, then, I am simply remembering it wrong. Selective memory, or confirmation bias. But for one thing, I must praise myself a little bit for having an excellent memory. I make all A's in college. If I was the type of person prone to false memory and false beliefs and for forgetting things, I am quite sure I would not be doing so well with difficult coursework which requires specific and verbatum recollection. Somewhere along there, would have been reflected my lack of memory or of having inconsistencies appearing into my memories and beliefs. Some of these defects would also have shown in the other parts of my life, such as in my work as a practical nurse. Would I not be forgetting things, or remembering things wrong? Yet I am a very reliable and skilled worker. And in my personal life, I would surely have people telling me that I forgot to do something, or that my memory of things was wrong, yet it doesn't happen. I am being quite honest about this, my recollection is one of the more reliable cases.

Alright then, what if I am lying? That is why I have tests whose results are documented to form formal evidence. I can not prove that my past anecdotes are not lies, if I could then they would not be anecdotes they would be formal evidence. But one of the main reasons why there is such a discrepancy between what internet-skeptics think and what I think, is the anecdotes. My anecdotes play part in my own assessment of this claim, yet the anecdotes are not available to others. That is why this is more compelling to me, than to others. Meanwhile, there is one further anecdote which has the potential of being turned into formal evidence. I did a reading on a well-known skeptic which went very well, so well in fact that it is yet another of those experiences I have had of the claim that compel me to further investigate. I hope to make this one available as formal evidence soon. I did something that I can not explain.

It is important to note that even I discard most of my experiences with the claim. It takes quite a lot to impress me. As you see me saying in the video where I accurately read that a TAM skeptic had anxiety and palpitations, rather than say "look I got it right!" I say "this is not evidence for the claim, as there could have been external symptoms". Anything that could have come with external symptoms, or anything involving people whom I have known before and interacted with is not the least bit impressive to me and is not added into my list of anecdotes that make this interesting. It takes things like, missing internal organs, knowing that a person has eaten a Lactobacillus supplement, describing a specific symptomless viral disease, to get my attention.

Alright, so what could explain those cases where I identify something that I simply should not have known? It doesn't matter, because there are too many possible interfering factors. As a student of chemistry I like to have my research subjects in the lab where I can control the factors and testing conditions. I would not do a chemistry experiment outdoors or in the kitchen where I can not control and regulate the temperature and other factors that may affect the subject under study. My initial reason to begin to investigate was based on prior anecdotes, and I mean the impressive ones like knowing stuff that I shouldn't have been able to know. So, if you allow that I thought I saw or experienced something that was interesting then allow the fact that I begun to investigate.

The issue here then is, why do I continue? Why am I still wanting to have additional tests? After all, I failed two tests already? Well, that is where skeptics and scientists divide. I certainly hope that the JREF makes Dr. Massimo Pigliucci's TAM8 lecture available to all, where he discusses why exactly a skeptic is not automatically a scientist, and why just by being a "critical thinker" does not qualify a skeptic to conduct scientific research as a scientist. Sadly I am not only a paranormal claimant but I am also a double-major science student, and that makes for a lot of frustrations as my goals are not skeptical debunking, but scientific exploration.

So let's look at the IIG test. Why did I want to have another test after I failed that one? Bear with me here, because I want to explain this. I am testing my perceptions, right? I am testing what the accuracy is in the perceptions that I have. In order to test the perceptions for their accuracy, I first need to have a perception. The claim is, and always has been, that "I claim that when I perceive health information of a person, that perception would be accurate. I do not claim that I would be able to sense every bit of health information considered to be in every person, or that I would perceive something in every person." This was how my claim was stated right from the very start with the IIG some three years ago. I never claimed to know everything and every time and in every person, but that when I did see something, when it did kick in, that information would be accurate.

It's like if you want to test how high a person can jump. They would have to jump first. If their leg hurts or if they are not feeling well that day then they will tell you that and they will ask to be tested later. If I am not getting a perception from a specific set of people and I make that clear during the test, and not afterwards, then that does not speak for the claim at all. There was no perception to be tested for accuracy.

The specific set of people in trial 1 were very difficult for me to feel into. I spent ages on # 12, eventually having to go through his ureters and work my way up to the kidneys; I could not sense through his back! Of course I was not allowed to speak during the trial, but as soon as that trial was over I was complaining during the entire break to all the IIG staff about how I knew my answer would be wrong. How would I know it was wrong? Because I had not formed a perception that I was confident in.

To test the perceptions for their accuracy, a perception has to occur. I can not hold the inaccuracy of trial 1 against my claim, because I made the complaint that it was not representative of my claim during the test, and not afterwards once the results had been established. And if the IIG would dare to release the video footage from during the break, not the live UStream one where the sound was cut off, it would be even more clear how I knew my answer in trial 1 would be wrong.

But I had agreed to a test protocol!, the skeptics will say. Well, once again that shows how skeptics are not scientists. Before you conduct a science experiment, you sit and think through the hypothesis and the procedure and theoretically come up with a procedure. You might need to make an initial assessment of various testing parameters first, which is what I did with my study. But when you run an experiment you always allow the discovery of yet new parameters not foreseen during the initial planning stages. In fact, it is your job as the scientist to critically analyze the test results and to do your best to find any possible additional factors, even if it is just a hunch! And then you go back there and redo the experiment, tweaking one parameter at a time.

Let me give a concrete example. I was working on the study of a colloidal silica compound which was doped with a nitrogen compound, giving the compound luminescent properties, which means that it absorbs and then re-emits light, appearing to be glowing. The synthesis was a lengthy multistep process, and achieving fluorescence (short-term luminescence, the glowing ends when the UV-light is turned off) at the end was fairly easy. But what I wanted to do was to study phosphorescent samples (where the glowing would last some time even after the UV-lamp was turned off, kind of like glow in the dark stars). Ones had been synthesized, and I was following the procedure very carefully, yet I never obtained any phosphorescence.

I was very disheartened, wondering what part of the procedure was I not adequately trained in to be performing it properly. Well, basically my hypothesis was to obtain phosphorescent material. I had a procedure. And it failed. Did I give up? A chemist does not give up at this point, that's when they start thinking. I redid the same procedure, each time more carefully, and still was not obtaining the desired phosphorescence in the product. So I begun to look at the parameters. I chose two parameters in the procedure and tweaked them one at a time in its own series of additional experiments. In one set, I varied the amount of one of the ingredients added. Still no phosphorescence. In the other set, I varied the amount of time that the compound spends in the oven. Still no phosphorescence. By that time, the time in my lab was ending and I never did obtain the desired result which had been reported by a previous scientist. Turns out, not even the professor or a graduate student was able to obtain phosphorescence by following the procedure. It remains a mystery.

The moral of the story is that this is how scientific research is done. You do not make one procedure alone and run one series of tests and conclude. You investigate possible sources of error, you try those assumptions, test the parameters, and reconsider. The final outcome and conclusion is obtained after a lot of work, and different approaches, and typically the end result is not a 100% yes or no answer, rather it is a description of a chemical behavior, how it behaves, under what conditions, rather than an all-exclusive yes or no trying to say what it is in a simple sentence.

I could have concluded that I was a bad chemist and that the procedure really works, but turns out it was not me it was the procedure. Thing is, phosphorescence has been obtained (and we know that since there are still samples available in the lab which exhibit this behavior), but the procedure allowing it to manifest has not been adequately defined.

Well, chemistry has a lot to teach about how to handle a scientific research hypothesis. All skeptics are interested in, is one simple test to say yes or no, either 100% correct or nothing at all. Problem is, they are looking for a superpower magic psychic ability that works always and under all conditions. Real-life phenomena that are based on human performance never behave that way.

And in the third trial I was exhausted. I managed to pick the person, but as I say in the video of the test before the results were established I had to guess on the side. And as we all know by now, I had the right person, but the wrong side. Is exhaustion not a valid excuse? When it is made during the test and not after? I wrote it down in my papers, many times and in many ways, that I was tired and that the claim was not performing.

Test protocols are designed as best as they can before the test is conducted. After a test it is permitted and good protocol to look back and find ways of improving the test to better allow the phenomenon under study to manifest. Additional tests always enhances the result, even if all they would end up doing was confirming and reinforcing the previous result. When the claim does not manifest, such a trial does not speak for or against the claim. And when I am tired, and the claim is not manifesting, that can not be held against the claim. Because there are so many times when it does manifest, when I make very clear and compelling perceptions, and that is when I make no excuses, that is when there are no excuses. Those are the cases I want the claim to be evaluated by. And my confidence comes during the test, not after once the results have been revealed. So there.

If my claim was that I could not only do this, but that I could also do this all the time and under all possible conditions, then by all means the fact that I experienced issues in trial 1 and 3 would hold against the claim.

What is interesting, is that when I had a very clear, compelling, and consistent perception in trial 2, so clear that I said many times during the break after that trial that this trial represented the very best of what my claim tries to do and that if I were wrong the claim would be falsified, I was right in that trial. And that I was right on the person in trial 3 and had been confident of that. All this meant, was that I wanted to learn from this test, take these two issues into account in a future test protocol, and try again.

If you are a scientist, which skeptics are not, and you run a test, and if you for any reason whether based on observable reasons or by merely suspecting it, you think that a testing parameter is disturbing with the test, you will run the test again, having addressed that parameter in the next test. Just to find out. Just out of curiosity, or actually scientific necessity - you have to do that. A testing procedure is hardly ever finalized right away in the science lab, it just isn't that simple or ideal. And if the hypothesis fails under the first test, trying out another test is not "cheating"; its results are valid too. And if falsification is the only possible outcome, then any other tests will only reinforce that.

But if you are a skeptic, all you want is for a psychic claimant to agree to a test, any test, of their claim. To go ahead and have that test, and to fail to achieve the 100% accuracy that would win them the title of super psychic and a huge cash prize. One chance a year is all you get. If something unexpected goes wrong, so what, a super psychic ability should be able to overcome that. And if you've just had an hour already of intense concentration and are nearly having an epileptic seizure and the claim is no longer manifesting, too bad. You're supposed to be able to do it all the time, under any conditions. Isn't that what psychic means? It's not like we're testing some actual human skill - it's magic!

Skeptics are valuable in that they identify issues that help in strengthening a test protocol and they offer to set up tests. But they are not scientists. Dr. Massimo Pigliucci's lecture talk would fit nicely right about here.

So I had another test. At TAM. So what? Why is that so bad? If my claim is headed toward falsification, meaning that there is no ability above chance in detecting hidden health information, than another test would only be able to arrive at that result. What skeptics don't understand, and probably never will, is that additional tests can only reinforce the true result. They seem to think that psychics are up to no good. The IIG sent Mark Edward to keep a very close watch on me throughout the test. Mark is a skilled mentalist and former psychic fraud and he was there to look closely at me to see whether I was doing any tricks that might help me cheat or win. It seems, almost, as if skeptics are afraid to let psychics be tested again. What if this time they succeed with their trick. Or, skeptics will think that having another test means that I am challenging or dismissing the IIG test results. What skeptics don't understand is that more tests is a good thing. If my claim does not work, further tests will emphasize that. More tests is good!

Can you blame me for wanting to have another test after IIG? Am I mentally ill for thinking that my results were "interesting"? Other people have told me they were interesting. My results were the highest than ever before for any paranormal test.

The TAM test went really well. It had only five people, and I did not get tired this time like at the third trial in the IIG test. Isn't that wonderful? Maybe it means that I am not all about excuses, maybe it means that my excuse of fatigue in the third trial of the IIG test was a valid excuse? Maybe I really was tired in the third trial of the IIG test? Why not test the claim when it works? Fortunately I can say whether it is manifesting or not, during the test and not afterwards. If I couldn't, if I could only assess whether it worked or not after the results have been announced, then it would not be a testable claim. Or I would be lying.

There were ten possible kidney spaces among the five people of the TAM test. I managed to see a kidney in eight of those ten. Pretty good, don't you think? In seven out of those eight I saw a kidney many times and very clearly. So the difference between seeing, and not seeing, was in these cases very large. It is not like I am vague about my answers, saying that "maybe I saw a kidney here" and "maybe I didn't see a kidney here". Where I saw a kidney I saw it many times and repeatedly.

How do I see a kidney? When I look at the person's back, I am feeling a vibrational landscape across them. It is like a detailed shimmer, that I feel. Across the outline of what will look like a kidney, the shimmer is dense and defines the shape of a kidney. It feels dense and heavy. When I don't feel a kidney, there is the absence of this feeling. It feels empty instead. In one of the eight, person # 1 left side, I only saw the kidney once and weakly.

In two out of ten I never saw a kidney. My first choice was not the target, my second one would have been. I think that's interesting. So let me have another test. What do the skeptics think I am doing? Guessing? Lucky guesses? If that is all there is to it, then let me do another test and the odds say that I am most likely to guess wrong that time. If I make two choices out of ten that is odds of 1 in 5 of the target being among those two. If I have one test and the target is among my two there was a 1 in 5 chance of succeeding by guessing. But look at this, then in another test it is a 4 in 5 chance of guessing it wrong! Shouldn't skeptics be thrilled about the prospects of seeing me get it wrong next time?

LightinDarkness says: "I think the fact that Anita believes she must "feel" like she is mentally ill to actually have some sort of problem is the largest indicator of where her "abilities" originate from (that would be mental delusions, not paranormal superpowers)." I don't believe anything. I don't know what this is. And why are you so convinced that I think I have paranormal superpowers? All I am saying is that when I look at people I see images of health information, and that I have experienced interesting cases of accuracy. And the reason I don't "feel" mentally ill is because the perceptions in themselves are not a mental illness. Everyone is entitled to what ever it is that they experience in their heads. What distinguishes between healthy or not is what it does. The perceptions do not harm me. They are not frightening, I do not experience them as part of reality. They are impressions, just like when I see that the number 3 is orange. I also do not hurt anyone else with them. I do not tell people about what I see, other than to skeptics when I am doing testing with them to check for their accuracy. There is nothing about the perceptions or with what I do with them that makes them a mental illness. I still believe you are using these accusations as a form of insult disguised in meaning to help, simply because skeptics do not like paranormal claimants. You do not have the tolerance to let someone have their own experience, and you are afraid that I would start to practice psychic readings and charge people money for it. Where is your evidence of that? I am entitled to my perceptions, I do not regard them as a psychic ability, and all I am doing is testing them to learn more about them.

And there are no "abilities". There is a "claim". And the claim does not come from mental delusions, the claim comes from actual experiences with the claim and its accuracy.

LightinDarkness: "As you point out, that is the point of why people have mental health issues - if they realized something was wrong, it wouldn't be a problem to begin with. Mental illnesses are predominately characterized by those suffering from them not knowing that anything is wrong..which is why its a problem." What exactly is wrong? I see perceptions, and I investigate them. Why is any of that wrong?

LightinDarkness: "Either Anita knows this and is simply trying to grab attention or shes mentally ill...or both." Or she has experienced interesting cases of accuracy with her perceptions and is trying to investigate it with skeptics because skeptics offer to test claims of the paranormal, ie. experiences that seem to lack a normal explanation and that require testing in order to find out. I am not doing this for attention, don't you see that I have a real and very interesting claim here? And you skeptics offer to be available to paranormal claimants to test and discuss their claims, meanwhile you seem to rather just want to debunk, ridicule, and insult?

I am not mentally ill. The perceptions themselves are not a mental illness. They are like synesthesia, and people are entitled to such experiences. And none of what I do with my perceptions is mental illness. I chose to begin to investigate because I thought there was accuracy, yet I understood that there are other possible explanations such as selective memory or external clues that could have led to the perceptions to depict accurate information and that is why I wanted to test this. And now after experiences during the study and after two tests I still find the accuracy high enough to indicate that there is something to this. The accuracy is higher than it should be.

LightinDarkness: "But we can at this point rule out any supernatural powers due to her IIG failure." You can not conclude on anything after the IIG test. There were two valid complications with the procedure that impaired on my perceptions. How was I supposed to know that not all people are as easy for me to feel into? I had not felt into that many people before during the study. And I didn't expect to be so exhausted after an hour. I made those excuses during the test. Not after. And they are valid excuses to make.

And my answer in the TAM test was accurate. It just had a poor precision. I will have another test, and I am not mentally ill.